Thursday, September 6, 2007

So Thursday has become my favorite day of the week for two reasons. 1.) It's the last day of the week that I have classes to go to... not that that is a hardship or anything since it's mostly Latin class now... 2.) It's "Supernatural" night... This show has nearly taken over my life. And they use Ecclesiastical Latin sometimes, so there *is* a connection... Sam and Dean also remind me of the myth of Castor and Pollux, so there's also a Classics connection right there...

Castor = Sam --->
Pollux = Dean --->
So... uh...
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"Supernatural" airs on Thursday nights at 9pm on the CW (which, I think, is channel 4 locally)... so in about 18 minutes...

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~Rachael

8 comments:

susannah eanes said...

you are *so* funny. these supernatural boiz have taken over my life too.

at this point, i'm wondering what life was even like before i met them.

(feeling brain drip out of ears)

(goes off to read about castor & pollux... only thing i know about them is i think they are stars or something...)

E Pluribus Unum said...

CASTOR AND POLLUX

They are called the Dioscuri (dios kouroi), meaning the "youths of Zeus". Their Vedic parallels in the effulgent brother horsemen Asvin sets them firmly in the Indo-European tradition (Burkert 1985:212). Their archaic and inexplicable name in Spartan inscriptions Tindaridai or in literature Tyndaridai occasioned an explanatory myth of a Tyndareus (Burkert 1985:212), occasioning incompatible accounts of their parentage, as that for their sisters Helen and Clytemnestra. The better known story is that Zeus disguised himself as a swan and seduced Leda. Thus Leda's children are frequently said to have hatched from two eggs that she then produced. The Dioscuri can be recognized in vase-paintings by the skull-cap they wear, the pilos, which was already explained in Antiquity as the remnants of the egg from which they hatched.[1] Tyndareus, Leda's mortal husband, is then father or foster-father to the children.[2] Whether the children are thus mortal and which half-immortal is not consistent among accounts, nor is whether the twins hatched together from one egg. In some accounts, only Polydeuces was fathered by Zeus, while Leda and her husband Tyndareus conceived Castor. This explains why they were granted an alternate immortality. It is a common belief that one would live among the gods, while the other was among the dead. They do make an appearance together in the play, Helen and Electra.

Castor and Polydeuces are sometimes both mortal, sometimes both divine. One consistent point is that if only one of them is immortal, it is Polydeuces. In Homer's Iliad, Helen looks down from the walls of Troy and wonders why she does not see her brothers among the Achaeans. The narrator remarks that they are both already dead and buried back in their homeland of Lacedaemon, thus suggesting that at least in some early traditions, both were mortal. Their death and shared immortality offered by Zeus was material of the lost Cypria in the Epic cycle.

As a further complication, the Zeus-as-swan myth is sometimes associated with the goddess Nemesis. In this tradition, it was Nemesis who was seduced and who laid the egg, but the egg was then found by or given to Leda. However, this story is usually associated with Helen, ordained by Zeus to cause the Trojan War, and not with Castor and Polydeuces

RaeS said...

:D

The reason they remind me of Castor and Pollux is because they are really close brothers who always have each other's back in any situation, but especially when the situation is dire. Dean has almost died twice, almost giving the impression that he is immortal (but not really, and Sam has died and was dead for several days. In order to get him back among the living, Dean made a deal with a demon. He sold his soul to her in exchange for getting Sam back and 1 more year to live, after which, she will send her hell-hounds after him to drag him down to Hell. So it's kinda like the myth about Castor's death... maybe... if you squint? Except in this case, we don't know the end yet because it hasn't been filmed, much less aired for us to see.

Anonymous said...

okay. so...the fact that i figured out how to do *this* is kind of a miracle. but commenting on other people's stuff is just about the extent of my abilities. i just wanted to show you this nifty little site i found. it lets your check the weather in latin!

http://latin.wunderground.com/

-Lauren

RaeS said...

That's all kinds of awesome, Lauren!! And it's not that difficult to sign in so you can post. You just go to www.blogger.com and then enter the username and password that are on the class syllabus (or I can give them to you in an e-mail if I'm mistaken and they are not there). Once the page has reloaded and you're signed in, you hit "new post," write what you want, sign your name(!) and hit "publish". Then you can check to make sure it posted the way you wanted it to. Very simple... I can show you sometime if you're still having trouble with it...

E Pluribus Unum said...

hey guys,

good (?) to see that those handsome guys from 'Supernatural' draw more attention than those conjugations! Lauren, et alii, it doesn't matter if you simply want to comment on someone's else's comment or post something yourself. Latin sites are welcome too, I cannot believe how much 'fun Latin' there is out there!

EM.

RaeS said...

::sheepish grin:: They're pretty... and the show is really good... and they speak Latin for exorcisms and spells and that makes me way happier than it probably should... and because I'm apparently an extra-special kind of geeky, I track down the sources of their Latin spells/exorcisms and then translate them into English (which I think is good practice)... so occasionally, I have to post excessively about it... I'll try to keep it from taking over the entire blog... ;D

And to report in as a TA, the students I've worked with this week are doing very well on the conjugations... and declensions as well. (Better than I am with the Latin 3 issues, but that's another post.) I think all you Latin 1 students will do really well on the test tomorrow. But in case you think you might need it, good luck!

And I've had at least four people ask me "what's up with 'inquit' and why doesn't it conjugate?" I told them, of course, but I wonder if other people might be wondering about "inquit" too and just haven't asked...

susannah eanes said...

we need full-fledged meta on the connection between these boys and the legend of the dioscuri.

RITE NAO. *grabby hands*